Oh, boy. I am tired. Forgive my appearance. I'm looking at my monitor right now, and, I got bags under my eyes. I'm looking a little weathered.
Dave:It's been, it's been a long weekend slash week. We're gonna talk about it today. What's up, friends? Welcome back to the podcast. This is the Chase to Summit Trail Talk podcast.
Dave:I'm your host, Dave. And here we talk about all things fitness tech, wearables, ultra marathon running, running in general, what I'm doing on a given day, being a dad, and, just things I'm interested in because I am in this room with a microphone, and, I'm alone. So I do what I want here. So in this episode today, it's kind of a catch up episode. I haven't put out a podcast in a couple of months.
Dave:So we're gonna be talking about all the things that have been happening, since December, basically. And also, we're gonna be talking about the Boston Run Show, which I just attended a couple of days ago, where it's currently Wednesday. Boston run show was last weekend. Still fresh in my memory. So I just wanna hit on a few highlights of that event because it was really enlightening and different for me.
Dave:So I'm gonna share that today. Before we get all the way into it, got a couple of things I wanna mention. First of all, thank you to the Patreon members who keep supporting the podcast in the main YouTube channel. There's some of you out there that have been supporting on Patreon for, like, well over a year, and I really appreciate it. Admittedly, I don't do enough on Patreon.
Dave:I know that, and that's something I I plan to change. I I just need to come up with some ideas that are fun and and maybe some maybe something like weekly podcast episodes that are only on Patreon or live streams. I don't really know yet, but I I do plan on changing that. I do have some help now. So my wife, Jen, has been helping out doing some things around the channel, which has been really great, and we've got some big ideas.
Dave:So stay tuned for that. If you haven't heard of Patreon, you wanna learn about what that is, I'll have it linked in the show notes down below. And on top of that, I also wanna thank the YouTube members out there who have been helping support the main channel for a while now. I also wanna give a big shout out to the merch store. So this is something I'll talk about again in this episode when we get to the Boston Run Show, but something new and exciting that came from the Boston Run Show was that we announced some new merch.
Dave:If you're watching this on YouTube, you'll be able to see it. If you're not, and this is audio only, I'm sorry, but I can try to describe it for you. So what you're looking at here is the new, Chase to Summit, running singlet, running tank, and this is in collaboration with Rabbit. You can see the Rabbit logo there. Rabbit being a California based company that makes, super high quality gear.
Dave:I've been wearing this one in particular for about a month now testing it out to see if I like it and I gotta say it is one of my favorite tanks right now. During the hot weather season this is gonna be what I reach for. It's perforated. There's little holes in it. I don't know if you can see that on camera but there's tiny little holes.
Dave:It's super stretchy and the material is just really really comfortable. It's got this new chase to summit logo on the front there with like mountains and trees incorporated in the text, which actually hired an artist to do this. So shout out to the artist, but it came out really good, and I'm very excited about it. These are now available on the merch store. You could check that out.
Dave:I'll have that linked in the description down below. And there's a couple of new other items as well. The green take out here only comes in a men's, unfortunately. They were out of women's in this design, in terms of rabbit, but we do have another design that's a black tank that has a similar look. However, it's, different material.
Dave:It's super soft, and it's got laser laser cut holes down the side as well as a really simple minimalistic chase to summit logo with, like, mountains integrated into the text. Also really cool. Also another piece that I'll be reaching for in this upcoming spring and summer season. And on top of that, we also have this new hoodie and a t shirt that matches it. This is the Chase to Summit Hills hoodie.
Dave:I like to call it. And again, brand new design. I actually did this design myself, and I'm really proud of it. I'm not good at holding stuff up to the camera, but, this hoodie is super comfortable. It's a polyester cotton blend, and I'm loving it.
Dave:This one's lightweight. It's not like a heavyweight hoodie like the one I'm wearing here. So it's great for, you know, not like those in between months, spring, fall, even on a cool night in the summer. This will be another one I reach for. So if you're interested along with all the hats that have been around, go check out the merch store.
Dave:And, of course, as always, you can use the discount code for podcast listeners only. That is Listen20LISTEN20 at checkout for 20% off your order. And by doing that, you'll get a pretty big discount. You'll get some swag, and we all win. Actually, I think if you use that 20% off, it pretty much I pretty much make no money, which is fine.
Dave:I just wanna get some of this cool stuff out there. So thank you very much. That's the only plug I'll do in this podcast today. I'm reading off my phone, which is bad form for podcasting, but, gotta have my notes. You know?
Dave:Alright. Let's talk about the Boston Run Show. So if you don't know what the Boston Run Show is, it's a big ex expo, a big convention that is all about running. And this this all kinds of different brands attend the run show. You got, Nike was there.
Dave:I think Nike was there. I might be wrong. Marathon Sports was there. They had all kinds of different shoe brands. We had Garmin there.
Dave:Then we had, Wahoo with their kicker run treadmills there with a bunch of setups so people could try them out. And a whole bunch of, like, smaller companies that are local to New England. And it was my first time attending an expo as an exhibitor. So we had our own booth. We had the table.
Dave:We had all the hats and the t shirts and stuff set up so people could come by, say hi, grab some merch. And it was extremely tiring. So if you don't know me or you haven't heard me talk about this before, I'm actually pretty introverted. I'm not like an outgoing loud loud person despite what you see on camera. And, it was a little overwhelming to have, like, thousands of people around me and people engaging with me and talking and socializing all day.
Dave:It was awesome. So if you're there, thank you. But by the end of the day, I was just, like, drained, and I needed to go curl up in a ball in a dark corner of my house to sort of recharge. But the event itself went off really well. It was kind of a trip.
Dave:Like, I've never been an exhibitor before, so we ended up renting, like, a U Haul truck. I got all the stuff we needed beforehand, so we had, like, racks to hang t shirts on and stuff. And a huge, huge shout out to my wife, Jen, and my brother-in-law, Adrian, who both helped me the entire weekend with this event. So that was packing up the truck, driving to Boston the day before on Friday, setting up the booth, attending the event as an exhibitor. They they helped me man the fort at the booth.
Dave:So if I had to, like, get lunch or go to the bathroom, like, I had someone there at the booth, which was great. And they both did it out of the kindness of their hearts. They were there all day long grinding, and it was a lot for them. So thank you, Jen and Adrian. It meant a lot to me for you to be there.
Dave:So actually the day before the Boston run show, that was on Saturday, there was, like, a setup, for the event for all the exhibitors. You could kinda preset your booth. I didn't plan this great. So in the afternoon on Friday, I actually hosted the first ever Chase to Summit group run with a bunch of local people that came, and we ran at the the Middlesex Fellows Reservation just north of Boston. And I did this as, like, a primer to the run show.
Dave:I thought it would be fun to to get a group of people out on the trails. Unfortunately, I set up that group run to be at 4PM in the afternoon on Friday, and we set up the booth at noon. However, getting out of Boston in that big U Haul van, we ended up hitting a bunch of traffic, and it was a scramble to get home, get get changed, and then get down to the trail to meet everyone. So I ended up being, like, like, twenty minutes late to my own group run. So I'm really sorry about that.
Dave:If you did attend the group run, you're waiting around for me, apologies for that. With that being said, this was the first ever group run I've ever put together. I mean, I know a lot of, like, influencers out there have, like, shakeout runs or whatever, and I don't really consider myself to be in the influencer space. I hate to I hate that word in general, but I thought it would be fun to see, like, if there's any like minded people in the area that might wanna meet up and go for a run, because to be honest, I'm typically a solo runner. Again, the introverted side of me likes to be solo, But this day, actually turned out surprisingly good.
Dave:I I'm gonna be real with you. I was super nervous about this group run, a, because I thought I would show up at the trailhead and I'd be by myself and no one would be there, which didn't happen, thankfully. And b, because I just didn't know what to expect, how to socialize. And even in a group running environment when I'm with other people, I never know if I'm running too fast or I'm running too slow or, you know what I mean? But what I didn't account for was the trail condition.
Dave:So the Middlesex Fellows Reservation is just North Of Boston here in Massachusetts. And if you live around here, you know it's been very cold, but also we've had this, like, freeze thaw cycle going on where it's gonna rain one day, then the next day it's, like, 10 below zero, then the next day it snows. In that kind of conditions lead up to a very icy trail running experience. The entire trail that we ran had a good, like, four to six inches of solid ice on it like an ice rink. And, thankfully, everybody that came out was, you know, they we made the best of it.
Dave:We'll put it like that. We did not run fast. We put in, like, five miles at a pretty chill pace because we were chatting and stuff. But also because the trails were so icy, they really dictated how fast we could run. None of us brought micro spikes.
Dave:And because of that, some of us ended up falling down. But all with all that said, it was a lot of fun. And what it did for me was open my eyes to there is a community here that wants to go trail running. And what I'm gonna do moving forward from now on is try to put more of these group runs on the calendar, and maybe we can grow this into a bigger thing on a weekly or biweekly basis, probably biweekly to get things rolling right off the bat. So if you do live in the New England area, the Boston area, North Of Boston, definitely stay tuned.
Dave:Follow me on Instagram, I and follow me on YouTube and all the places. I'll probably announce it on Strava even, but I'm gonna start putting, like, group run dates on the calendar, especially now that things are starting to warm up and the trails would be in better conditions, because I think it would be fun. You know? It's gonna hold me accountable to keep a keep a run going on a Friday, and it will be a good reason to get together with other like minded people, and we'll be able to talk shop. So, again, thanks to all that attended.
Dave:It was a lot of fun. I hope you can make the next one, and stay tuned for future group runs because it was surprisingly fun. But what else was cool about the run show this year is that it was also a combination. It was not only just the run show, it was also the Boston Outdoor Show where in previous years, they would these would be two separate events. This year, they put it all into one event.
Dave:There are a lot of companies there. You know, there were, like, mountain bike companies, canoe companies, people like that, and some interesting, like, fundraisers and and things that, you know, maybe I wanna be a part of someday, so that side was cool as well. But the outdoor side also had another key speaker, which was Conrad Anker. If you know who Conrad is, you might know who he is. He's been on Netflix.
Dave:He's kind of the most legendary climber of all time. This guy has scaled all of the peaks in, like, you know, Nepal and and K 2 and Everest and all those things, but he also has done, like, first ascents. And you might remember him from a movie called Meru on Netflix, which was a big deal for him where he did a first descent on on on a on a big mountain. So he was there doing a speech, and the crazy thing on Saturday was after the event was over, the event held like a exhibitor mixer where they gave us like a drink ticket to go get a beer at the harpoon brewery just outside the event. And so my wife, Jen, and my brother-in-law, Adrianne, and myself, we we went to get that free beer.
Dave:You can't pass that up. But while we were there, we're waiting the line to get, like, our beer and pretzel. And who cuts me in line but Conrad Anchor himself? We ended up chatting over a beer for, like, half an hour, and we were talking about how he grew up and what supplements he takes and how he he how his changing how his climbing has changed over time and what he does to keep his fitness there. And it was really awesome.
Dave:We learned a lot about him. It was funny. He actually followed me on Instagram while we were there. He was asking about the channel. That was really cool.
Dave:I mean, that was like my little, my little fanboy moment. I got to kinda nerd out with Conrad Anchor over a beer. So that was the Boston Run Show in a nutshell. Let's talk about a couple of other things. So, another new exciting thing I did last week or a couple weeks ago rather was, I was actually on Jeff Pelletier's podcast.
Dave:So if you follow the Trail Running niche on YouTube, you probably have seen Jeff's content. He makes really high quality, like, documentary films about all the races that him and his girlfriend, Audrey, run. And the the the the quality of these videos are, like, top notch. We're talking, like, Netflix quality films on YouTube about ultra ultra running, amazing stuff, long form with voiceovers and details about the areas and all the things he does, and really an amazing filmmaker. So he launched a new podcast called the creator cool down, and I was honored to be the first guest on this podcast.
Dave:And it was actually a really awesome experience. I've been on a few podcasts in the past, and, you know, no no shame on them. That that was a lot of fun. But I would say that Jeff was probably one of the most well prepared podcasts that I've been on. He was an amazing host.
Dave:He asked the raise the right questions. We dug deep into, like, how the channel got started and where the name Chase the Summit came from and, like, even financial things. The whole idea behind his new podcast is to talk about, like, pulling the curtains open be behind the scenes of content creators in this space, in, like, the running and fitness space. So it was cool. We talked for, like, an hour, and I shared a lot of weird information that maybe no one cares about.
Dave:But judging by the response that his new podcast has seen so far, it seems like some people care. So if you haven't yet, go check out Jeff's new podcast. That's Jeff Pelletier. I'll link it in the description down below, and give him a follow while you're over there because it's really awesome. He's got some amazing guests coming up, and I'm really looking forward to following it.
Dave:Okay. Next topic, the Garmin tactics eight. So if you follow the main channel, you may have seen that the new Garmin tactics eight came out last week. Might about a just about a week from today last week. I'm actually wearing one right now.
Dave:I actually swapped out the band for my my favorite color band there. And this is the 51 millimeter meter form factor. If you missed that video, I'll give it to you in a nutshell. The Garmin Tactics eight, just like all previous tactics series, is sort of a a Phoenix model rebranded to be a tactics model because they include some very unique features under the hood on the Tactics series. These are things like stealth mode that, like, turns off the all the communications on the watch so you can be, like, behind enemy lines if you're doing tactical things.
Dave:You've also got, the kill switch, which will erase the watch completely, and and, like, securely erase it so it can't be recovered, if you're, like, again, captured and you don't want people seeing your data. I don't know what that's really used for. There's also aviation things on there if you fly planes or you're a pilot. There's night vision goggle mode, of course, for tactical operations when you're looking at your watch with night vision on. And then along with that, you also get all the things that the Garmin Phoenix eight brought to the table.
Dave:So you still get the dive features, the increased build quality, the dive proof proof buttons, all that stuff in the Tactics eight, of course, for more money, but it is pretty much a Garmin Phoenix eight with a layer of tactical features on it and a slightly different design. In terms of the design, it does have a sapphire lens. It also comes in two different sizes, 47 millimeter and 51 millimeter, and it does come in a solar model and a AMOLED model. Only in the bigger size though. So if you want the solar, the solar tactics eight, you will need to get the 51 millimeter form factor.
Dave:If you are cool with the AMOLED, you can go with the 47 millimeter form factor. But personally, the thing that makes it stand out for me in my opinion is really the design because the tactics eight has a very unique look. It's got a flat bezel on it, and it's just like a a stealth a more stealth minimalistic design compared to the equivalent Phoenix eight. It's also all blacked out, which I prefer. It's got a nice DLC coating on it, and the buttons actually have, like, a texture on it, which the Phoenix is missing.
Dave:So if you wanna learn more about the Tactics eight, definitely go check out the main channel in my video. It's It's not really a review video. It's sort of like an unboxing, first look, here's what it does kind of thing, but a very interesting watch nonetheless. And if you do have questions about it, feel free to comment in the comments down below on YouTube. If you're listening to the audio version and you have a question, shoot me a DM on, Instagram or something.
Dave:We're gonna move on to human powered health. This is another video I put out on YouTube, about VO two max testing, lactate testing, running gait analysis, force plates, and resting metabolic rate. Both my wife, Jen, and I visited a local lab here in Massachusetts called Human Powered Health, and this is a fully capable lab that has a whole bunch of testing available for both running and cycling. Now the cool thing about human powered health when it comes to all these tests is that they're pretty advanced. So after you complete your testing, they'll actually email you a link with all of your data organized in sort of a dashboard so you can go through each piece of the pie.
Dave:And if you go back multiple times, they'll actually plot that data over the course of time. So if you wanna see how your VO two max is increasing over the course of six months, you can go get your baseline, go back later after you do a training block, and get, the difference between before and after, which is super cool. So I made a video about this whole experience getting tested. I wanna do even in the podcast, I'll do this. I'll give them a big shout out, Human Powered Health.
Dave:They didn't sponsor the video. They're not sponsoring this podcast, but they did let Jen and I borrow their lab for the entire day without any other clients around. So we were able to film. We had a camera guy there filming, and, we didn't have to worry about other people being in the background or getting permission from people. So we were able to sort of film freely, which was super cool.
Dave:So what they do to test this is they make you run on a treadmill. You start pretty slow, and then every couple of minutes, they actually poke your finger and make you bleed a little bit, and then they take a sample of your blood with a little machine that can detect how much lactic acid or lack lactate you have built up in your blood. Then we did the VO two max test, and you probably know what this is, but your VO two max is essentially how efficient your body can utilize the oxygen that you're consuming. So every time you take a breath, how much oxygen your body can actually use from that breath while exercising. So to test VO two max, it's sort of a suffer fest.
Dave:They basically put you on a treadmill. They make you run at, like, a pretty chill pace. And then after a couple minutes at that chill pace, they continue to increase the incline of the treadmill by 1% every one minute. Basically, what they want you to do is run until failure. They want you to completely put all of your effort into it, max yourself out before they end the test.
Dave:And by doing that, you should hit, I think they call it your ventilatory plateau. That's the point at which you're not utilizing all the oxygen you can take in because you've hit that ventilation plateau, which is your VO two max. Now the interesting thing about VO two max testing is that a lot of peep people don't actually hit their true VO two max during the test. And the reason because of this is a variety of factors. First of all, you have to wear a big honking mask while you do this test.
Dave:It's connected to a tube, and it's actually really uncomfortable while you're running because you're sort of gasping for air through this tiny tube in a mask. Some people do this better than others. For example, my wife really hated the mask. She got super uncomfortable. And due to that, she sort of quit her test a little bit early.
Dave:So because of that, she technically didn't hit her true VO two max for the test. So that is a problem because it can skew your results. But what they do with the data that they collected before you hit that VO two max is they extrapolate out or project out where your VO two max should be with the data they already observed. So it's sort of like an educated guess. Now for me, the physiologist I was working with, a person named Evan, he he got in my head before the test because he told me that most people last between six and twelve minutes be before they give up on the test or they hit their true max.
Dave:And so because he told me that, it sort of, like, gamified the whole situation in my head, and I was telling myself, I am not quitting early. I'm gonna last thirteen minutes. I'm gonna, like, beat the record on this thing, even though I'm not the most fit person in the world. But because of that, it definitely helped my mental situation. It's definitely not a fun experience.
Dave:You've got a mask on. You're killing yourself. You're gasping for air. You're at met your maximum heart rate. But I was able to kinda power through that, and I did last until the treadmill got up to 12% of incline, and I lasted for, like, twelve and a half minutes before I quit.
Dave:And because of that, I actually did hit my true VO two max according to the data that they received from from my oxygen intake and my carbon dioxide output. So the results from the VO two max test, I'm not gonna spoil it here. I want you to watch the video and get the full rundown, but I will say they were much higher than I expected. So my Garmin has been barking at me for, like, months now. Ever since I ran the Vermont one hundred endurance race back in July, I feel like every time I go for a run, my Garmin's, like, unproductive.
Dave:Your VO two max is dropping, And it's weird because I haven't really stopped training. I still run a lot on a weekly basis. So I don't know what's going on, if there's something new with the algorithm, but when I did the VO two max test at this lab, it came back significantly higher than what my Garmin was telling me. And, honestly, kind of surprisingly high for the way I've been feeling lately because I gotta be real. It feels like I've got the dad bod coming on pretty strong after the winter.
Dave:We have four kids. It's been crazy around here. I'm not training the way I want to even though I am still training. The VIA two max result did come back surprisingly high. I'm definitely in, like, according to the test, in the upper register in that, like, excellent or superior zone, even though I may not feel like that.
Dave:But to learn more about all these tests in the in the results from them, definitely go check out the full video on the main YouTube channel. You you might find it interesting. I found it interesting. That's why I made a video about it. But I will do a be doing a follow-up video taking all that data that I got from Human Powered Health and then comparing it with all of the wearables I have.
Dave:So, like, Apple Watch, Polar, Coros, Xuntu, Garmin, of course, and everything else out there, including some apps on my phone, to seeing which ones are more accurate than the others. And I think that might be kinda interesting. So stay tuned for that video probably coming in the next couple of weeks, hopefully. And that is a good segue into upcoming races because this is something I haven't talked about at all on the podcast or in the main channel because I'm a little apprehensive on what I've signed up for and what I'm looking at, but, hey, why not put it all out there? Right?
Dave:So, moving into the spring, we've got some races coming up that I'm gonna be training for and running. I've got also Jen. She's downstairs. That's why I'm pointing over here. She's also running a race.
Dave:So Jen is signed up for the Boston Marathon coming up in April. It's coming up quick. She's only got a few weeks left. And, unfortunately, she actually has a minor injury that she she picked up a couple of weeks ago. She's been killing herself, man.
Dave:Like, we did a a long run together, like, a month ago. We did a 17 mile run, on the Boston Marathon course. We did we ran, the hill Heartbreak Hill a couple of times. We did, like, hill repeats on that to get some elevation gain and get, you know, used to the course. She's run it before.
Dave:I haven't, but it was good to get out there with her and put some miles in, and, actually, it was a pretty fun day. But since then, she picked up a weird ankle injury that's, like, on the top of her foot by her ankle. Yesterday, she actually got an MRI on her foot, and it revealed that she's got some sort of, it's like bursitis. It's like the sheath that's over the tendon is damaged and bruised. But the good news is is it's not full blown tendonitis, and it doesn't appear to be a stress fracture.
Dave:But it is something that is bothering her, and Boston is only, like, a few weeks away at this point, so it is a little bit bad timing. And, unfortunately, she's had to miss the past couple of weeks of training because of that. But she is optimistic. I'm optimistic for her. I think, you know, judging by the amount of time she hasn't been running, she probably hasn't lost any fitness, and she's still been working out and doing cardio and stuff, just not running.
Dave:So we'll see what happens. Now in terms of me, I'm signed up for the Vermont one hundred again. This will be my fourth time back at the race. I ran it back in 02/2019 where I DNF'd at the mile 50 mark. I ran it again back in 2023, I believe.
Dave:Twenty twenty three, I finished it. And then I went back again last year in 2024 and finished it yet again. So I have two medals, two belt buckles to the Vermont one hundred, and I'm gonna be going back for a third, which I'm a little bit scared about. If you watch my Vermont one hundred video, you might know that I kinda blew up at mile 60, and the last 40 miles was sort of a a suffer fest coming in. I need to mitigate that this time.
Dave:I don't wanna blow up. I don't wanna bonk like I did last time. So that's gonna be something I need to manage. You know, I was I was apprehensive to sign up for Vermont again, but I do love the race. I love being a part of it.
Dave:I love the culture, the atmosphere. I like seeing the familiar faces that we see every year there. The people have that have been running it for, like, ten years in a row. It's really cool to be there. So I'm happy I signed up and got back in the lottery, and I will be attending again.
Dave:But I am nervous to run it again, just because I know the course so well, and I know what to expect now that it's sort of like a PTSD moment in a way where I know what's coming, and I'm scared. But on top of that, I'd like to run a couple of other races this year. I wanna look at 50 k's, which I haven't nailed any down yet. So I wanna put a few 50 k's on the calendar, maybe a 50 miler, something like that. But also, I've had my eye on the twisted branch 100 k.
Dave:This is a race that takes place in New York, Upstate New York. It's in a pretty remote area. It's a super tough race, and it's a hundred k. Lots of elevation gain, tough footing, and surprisingly, it is a Western States qualifier even though it's a hundred k. I haven't pulled the trigger yet.
Dave:There's only a few spots left, but I'm thinking about it. And on top of that, I've also been thinking about the San Diego hundred miler that takes out takes place out in California, of course. Hundred miles, I think it's got around 13,000 feet of elevation gain. And the x factor for that one is it takes place in June, so it can be pretty hot during that time in that area. But, again, something I'm looking at, and there's only a few spots left.
Dave:With all that information, I'm gonna throw this over to you, the viewer of this podcast, the the listener. Is there a race I'm missing? Is there a race I should be running this year that you think would be a good fit for what I'm trying to do? I'm gonna put the blame on you if I fail at it. But I think, it would be an interesting exercise if you're listening or watching.
Dave:What do you think I should do? The criteria for me is, like, I want it to be a Western States qualifier. And ideally, it would be cool to have it in New England, but there's not a lot around here in terms of, like, hundred k to hundred milers. So I've still been looking around. And so I'm gonna throw that over to your court now.
Dave:Comment down below. Let me know what race I should run. Okay. And with that, we've been recording for thirty eight minutes now. Not a long time, but I just did I wanted to do a quick a quick podcast to get get the face back on camera, get a recording out there, and talk about what's been going on with the run show and Jeff's podcast and all the things that I mentioned in this video and podcast.
Dave:But I'd also like to ask you a question or have you ask questions. Man, I'm bad at this. In the next episode of the podcast, I wanna do an a q and a podcast. Anybody out there can ask the questions, and I'll try to provide some answers as best I can. If you want to, put a question out there, go ahead and drop that in the comments on YouTube.
Dave:Start it with the q, colon, or whatever, and then drop your question down there. I'll write all those down, and we'll revisit it in the next q and a episode. I'll also put up a post on Instagram and wherever else you might see me on social media. And if you see that, you can apply your, questions there too. And with that, we've reached the end of this podcast quick and dirty this week.
Dave:Just wanted to get you updated, talk about the new swag and all the updates. I just dropped my phone. I hope you enjoyed this one, and hopefully, I'll see you out on the trail soon if you live in the area and you can join that group run. If you haven't already, make sure to hit that subscribe button on YouTube for the podcast and the main channel, and follow me on all of your favorite podcast platforms, Spotify, Apple, whatever else. Is there anything else anymore?
Dave:It seems like they're all shutting down. Google is gone now. Right? Well, follow me all those places. Follow me on YouTube.
Dave:Do all the things. And, one more question for you. Is there a guest you'd like to see on the podcast? Comment that too, because I wanna have some more guests on here. I gotta get better at that.
Dave:Alright, friends. That's the end of this one. I hope you liked it and I'll see you in the next one. Bye.
